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From: Vladislav Shpilevoy <v.shpilevoy@tarantool.org>
To: Sergey Ostanevich <sergos@tarantool.org>
Cc: tarantool-patches@dev.tarantool.org
Subject: Re: [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v2 2/2] wal: reorder tx rows so that a tx ends on a global row
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:06:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b112f330-2926-bd9f-bebc-fdaf30f6133c@tarantool.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200601160224.GB50@tarantool.org>

>>> 29.05.2020 01:54, Vladislav Shpilevoy пишет:
>>>> Thanks   for   the   patch,
>>>> But   I   have  a  comment!
>>>> It   is   a   nice  crutch,
>>>> Yet we need one more moment.
>>>>
>>>> The patch basically sacrifices transaction rows order
>>>> and WAL correctness for the sake of replication. It
>>>> does not look right. Why can't we leave WAL as is, and
>>>> tweak all these things in relay? It looks really wrong
>>>> to change statements order. Especially taking into
>>>> account this is needed *only* for replication. For example,
>>>> consider FKs.
>>>>
>>>> A local space has a FOREIGN KEY reference to a global
>>>> space. To make it work, we need to insert into the global
>>>> space first, and then into the local space. When you change
>>>> the order, the local insert goes first, and violates the
>>>> foreign key. So if we will check FKs on recovery (when we
>>>> will have FKs in box), this patch will break them.
>>>>
>>>> Alternative to relay - append a dummy NOP statement in the
>>>> end of the transaction, which would be global. But this is
>>>> also a crutch. I think the TSNs figuring out should be done
>>>> in relay. It could keep track of the current transaction,
>>>> change TSNs and is_commit when necessary.
>>>
>>> Hi! Thanks for the review!
>>>
>>> I understand this is a crutch, but it's the best solution I could come
>>> up with.  Appending dummy  NOPs will increase instance LSN by one,
>>> which  also looks  ugly. The correct solution is, indeed, to collect  a tx
>>> in relay and mangle with it in any means  we need before sending, however,
>>> I faced some problems with this approach. See more in v1 of this patchset
>>> (letter [PATCH 2/2] replication: make relay send txs in batches).
>>>
>>> By the way, your txn_limbo implementation assigns the tx an lsn of the last
>>> tx row, which doesn't work in case the last row is a local one. So, looks like
>>> we either need to reorder the rows or insert a NOP at the tx end. Or just
>>> assign the tx an lsn of the last global row.
>>>
>>> Still, it's up to you which solution you find a better one, and I'll
>>> implement it.
>>
>> I guess the current solution is ok then. Feel free to add
>> Reviewed-by: Vladislav Shpilevoy <vshpilevoi@mail.ru>. First version
>> looks better, but seems it will take too much time to rework xlog
>> streaming API.
>>
>> Although did you try? I don't know xlog code well, but perhaps you could
>> just forbid to reuse ibuf for sequential rows until explicit reset() or
>> something.
>>
>> I also have a thought about is_commit necessity. Why do we need it? Why isn't
>> tsn enough? I saw in xrow code (xrow_header_encode()) that there are 2
>> combinations:
>>
>> - No tsn, and no is_commit for single statement transactions. Is_commit
>>   is assumed implicitly;
>>
>> - tsn is encoded, and the last statement has is_commit.
>>
>> But in fact the is_commit flag always can be determined implicitly. Consider
>> all the possible cases:
>>
>> - row1: tsn1, row2: tsn2. Then all rows [..., row1] belong to one
>>   transaction, all rows [row2, ...] belong to a next transaction;
>>
>> - row1: no tsn, row2: tsn2. Then row1 is first single-statement
>>   transaction, [row2, ...] - next transaction.
>>
>> - row1: tsn1, row2: no tsn. Then the same as previous. [..., row1] -
>>   first transaction, row2 - second single-statement transaction.
>>
>> - row1: no tsn, row2: no tsn. Two single statement transactions.
>>
>> It means, transaction border can be determined by tsn difference
>> between two sequential rows. This is allowed because transactions
>> are never mixed. Tsn difference is border. And since is_rollback
>> does not exist (it will in sync replication, but as a separate entry,
>> for multiple transactions), and is_commit *already* is assumed
>> implicitly for single statement transactions, why not to calculate it
>> implicitly for all transactions?
> 
> Shall we need a readahead then?
> Consider you have a bactch arrived and you have to guess if the last op
> in it actually is_commit? 
> What if you have no following ops for a long time? Will you hold the txn
> until the next one arrived?
> 
> Sergos

I didn't think about it. Then the flag removal can't be done. At least
not in the way I described it.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-01 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-25 10:58 [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v2 0/2] fix replication tx boundaries after local space rework Serge Petrenko
2020-05-25 10:58 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v2 1/2] wal: fix tx boundaries Serge Petrenko
2020-05-28 22:53   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-05-29 11:09     ` Serge Petrenko
2020-05-25 10:58 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v2 2/2] wal: reorder tx rows so that a tx ends on a global row Serge Petrenko
2020-05-25 15:13   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-05-25 16:34   ` Konstantin Osipov
2020-05-25 18:35     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-05-25 20:42       ` Konstantin Osipov
2020-05-26  9:41     ` Serge Petrenko
2020-05-26 11:41       ` Konstantin Osipov
2020-05-26 12:08         ` Serge Petrenko
2020-05-28 22:54   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-05-29  8:13     ` Konstantin Osipov
2020-05-29 11:42     ` Serge Petrenko
2020-05-29 11:51       ` Konstantin Osipov
2020-05-29 12:07         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-05-29 12:07           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-05-29 12:15         ` Serge Petrenko
2020-05-29 13:44           ` Konstantin Osipov
2020-05-29 15:55             ` Serge Petrenko
2020-06-01 13:40       ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-06-01 16:02         ` Sergey Ostanevich
2020-06-01 17:06           ` Vladislav Shpilevoy [this message]
2020-05-28 22:53 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v2 0/2] fix replication tx boundaries after local space rework Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-05-29 11:03   ` Serge Petrenko

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