From: "n.pettik" <korablev@tarantool.org> To: tarantool-patches@freelists.org Cc: Vladislav Shpilevoy <v.shpilevoy@tarantool.org>, Imeev Mergen <imeevma@tarantool.org> Subject: [tarantool-patches] Re: [PATCH v8 1/3] box: factor fiber_gc out of txn_commit Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 02:08:02 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <F66C06EC-E7F7-4608-8483-AAC0C0E416C8@tarantool.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <4a7a178a-7632-4f1a-5b94-67ef886c784d@tarantool.org> [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3058 bytes --] >>> But SQL wants to use some transactional data after commit. It is >>> autogenerated identifiers - a list of sequence values generated >>> for autoincrement columns and explicit sequence:next() calls. >>> >>> It is possible to store the list on malloced mem inside Vdbe, but >>> it complicates deallocation. >> What is the problem with deallocation? AFAIU it is enough to >> simply iterate over the list and release each element - not big deal. >> If you want to use region, mb it is worth to store separate region >> specially for VDBE? We already have it in parser, so what prevents >> us for adding the same thing to VDBE? I guess we can store many >> things there, not only list of ids. I understand that parser in its turn >> has nothing in common (at least it should, except for analyze machinery) >> with transaction routines, so separate region is likely to be more >> reasonable for parser, but anyway... > > I've decided to say more details. Parser never yields. This is why we can > waste here any resources, rack and ruin everything, but at the end of > parsing it should be returned back. > > Vdbe, on the contrary, yields. So it holds some system resources while > other fibers can not use them. If we added a special region to Vdbe, it > would steal slabs from the thread's slab cache, while other fibers may > want to use it. Hence, when we use one region for all transactional data, > including language specific, allocations are much less fragmented over > different slabs. > > Is this explanation decent? Quite. I thought that used slabs are marked somehow so that different fibers’ regions can’t rely on the same chunk. Probably, I misunderstood how internals of our allocation system work. I would better ask you f2f someday (or read again Konstantin’s article). Anyway, thanks. > > Also, I do not agree, that 'deallocation is just iteration and it is > ok'. It is O(n) iteration and freeing of heap objects. If a one inserted > 10k rows with autogenerated ids, it would waste 10k heap fragments, > 10k calls of malloc/free - in my opinion it is an abysmal overhead, but > what is more, it can be avoided for free. Instead of 10k free() it boils > down to deallocation of N slabs, where N = slab_size / (10k * 8); 8 - size > of autogenerated it; slab size is at least 64Kb, so N = 64*1024/80000 <tel:1024/80000> < 1. > It takes 1 deallocation vs 10k deallocations. So I think this refactoring > is worth. Very impressive calculations, however: a. I doubt that smb extensively uses queries like INSERT INTO t VALUES (NULL, ..), *10k repeats*, (NULL, ..)’ *Ok, neither I nor you know which queries users execute (or will execute), but anyway your example looks too synthetic.* b. Nothing prevents us from counting number of NULLs right in parser and allocate memory as single array (one malloc). In this case it would be more efficient, I guess, since you don’t need that machinery connected with linked list. Btw, why didn’t you consider this variant? [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 19608 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-30 23:08 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2018-10-29 17:33 [tarantool-patches] [PATCH v8 0/3] sql: return all generated ids via IPROTO imeevma 2018-10-29 17:33 ` [tarantool-patches] [PATCH v8 1/3] box: factor fiber_gc out of txn_commit imeevma 2018-10-30 14:30 ` [tarantool-patches] " n.pettik 2018-10-30 19:15 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy 2018-10-30 20:03 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy 2018-10-30 20:06 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy 2018-10-30 21:32 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy 2018-10-30 23:08 ` n.pettik [this message] 2018-10-31 9:18 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy 2018-10-31 9:30 ` n.pettik 2018-10-29 17:33 ` [tarantool-patches] [PATCH v8 2/3] sql: return all generated ids via IPROTO imeevma 2018-10-30 14:30 ` [tarantool-patches] " n.pettik 2018-11-02 18:52 ` Imeev Mergen 2018-11-09 7:51 ` n.pettik 2018-10-29 17:33 ` [tarantool-patches] [PATCH v8 3/3] sql: remove psql_txn from Vdbe imeevma 2018-10-30 14:30 ` [tarantool-patches] " n.pettik 2018-10-30 19:41 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy 2018-11-09 8:02 ` [tarantool-patches] Re: [PATCH v8 0/3] sql: return all generated ids via IPROTO Kirill Yukhin
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