From: Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches <tarantool-patches@dev.tarantool.org>
To: Konstantin Osipov <kostja.osipov@gmail.com>,
Serge Petrenko <sergepetrenko@tarantool.org>,
gorcunov@gmail.com, tarantool-patches@dev.tarantool.org
Subject: Re: [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v3] wal: introduce limits on simultaneous writes
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 21:23:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a6c0d7e-2231-510c-788d-daa9644f5e84@tarantool.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210226071829.GD18388@starling>
On 26.02.2021 08:18, Konstantin Osipov wrote:
> * Vladislav Shpilevoy <v.shpilevoy@tarantool.org> [21/02/26 10:15]:
>>> I'd also question the place where you decided to put this gate.
>>> The source of the issue is async requests, not WAL, which worked
>>> fine in absence of async requests. So it's async requests that
>>> should be gated, not WAL.
>>
>> In the commit message it is clearly stated why it is in the
>> journal's code, not just in the applier:
>>
>> The feature is ready for `box.commit{is_async=true}`. Once it's
>> implemented, it should check whether the queue is full and let the user
>> decide what to do next. Either wait or roll the tx back.
>>
>> Async transactions will be exposed to 'userspace' to be able to reduce
>> latency for network requests ending with a transaction. They won't have
>> to wait for WAL write to end.
>
> You did not understand my comment. I tried to say that a major
> part of this code is generic and should reside in lib/core as a
> counting semaphore abstraction. Async transaction simply use this
> counting semaphore to throttle themselves. Then neither WAL nor
> any other resource used by async transactions will be overloaded.
>
> Otherwise, the system would be allowed to create async
> transactions, and while WAL will not overflow, some other resource
> (memory, transaction identifiers, whatever) may still overflow.
Ok, now I understand. Yeah, I also think it is a good idea to move it
libcore if nothing major will change in the patch due to any reason.
Talking of the other limits - firstly we need to find if some of them
really overflows. Then yes, such a semaphone-thing could be applied
there too. But AFAIK, there are no other known similar bugs yet.
>>> Otherwise your overflow will just spill out someplace else.
>>
>> On the contrary. Your proposal to do it in the applier would lead to
>> queue overflow in some other place - in userspace. When the queue is
>> for the entire WAL, it won't overflow.
>
> I did not say it should be in the applier.
It was a misunderstanding.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-26 20:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-24 19:35 Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-02-24 19:40 ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-02-25 13:05 ` Konstantin Osipov via Tarantool-patches
2021-02-26 0:57 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-02-26 7:18 ` Konstantin Osipov via Tarantool-patches
2021-02-26 20:23 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches [this message]
2021-02-26 21:20 ` Konstantin Osipov via Tarantool-patches
2021-02-26 22:44 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-02-27 13:27 ` Konstantin Osipov via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-01 19:15 ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-01 21:46 ` Konstantin Osipov via Tarantool-patches
2021-02-26 0:56 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-01 19:08 ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-01 22:05 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-02 17:51 ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-03 20:59 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-09 15:10 ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-09 19:49 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-10 8:18 ` Konstantin Osipov via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-12 17:10 ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-13 19:14 ` Konstantin Osipov via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-15 23:42 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-16 6:45 ` Konstantin Osipov via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-16 20:27 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-16 10:19 ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-16 20:48 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-17 12:14 ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-17 21:02 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-19 11:32 ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-03-19 15:36 ` Kirill Yukhin via Tarantool-patches
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