From: "Георгий Кириченко" <georgy@tarantool.org> To: Konstantin Osipov <kostja@tarantool.org> Cc: tarantool-patches@freelists.org Subject: [tarantool-patches] Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] Write rows without a lsn to the transaction tail Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:52:10 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <2621145.aQjCMBtlp2@home.lan> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20190311140439.GA13774@chai> [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3657 bytes --] On Monday, March 11, 2019 5:04:39 PM MSK Konstantin Osipov wrote: > * Georgy Kirichenko <georgy@tarantool.org> [19/03/11 13:54]: > > It seems we should be able to allow using statements with > different server_id in the same transaction. When deciding which > transactions to send back in multi-master mode, we should only > look at the first statement to find out the source (origin) of the > transaction and either send all statements in the transaction or > skip all statements. I don't think it is a good approach because of: 1. If replica A produces a transaction and replica B writes this transaction with local changes then state of replica C is unknown (we couldn't predict which replica A or B replicates faster). Also what should happen if C replicates from A and D replicates from B - they both will have different data. 2. In case of synchronous replication replica B how replica B should confirm its local changes? Using replica A confirmation, but replica A doesn't know anything about that as well as other replicaset items that replicates from A first. So if this local changes could not even be replicated should we allow such changes only for local spaces? 3. This breaks row format - now each row has full info about its transaction (replica id and tsn), but without separate tsn_replica_id item we should rely on external information (tx row number, previous rows and other). Please keep in mind a possibility of interleaving transactions. > > > On Monday, March 11, 2019 12:59:26 PM MSK Konstantin Osipov wrote: > > > * Georgy Kirichenko <georgy@tarantool.org> [19/03/11 09:55]: > > > > Form a separate transaction with local changes in case of replication. > > > > This is important because we should be able to replicate such changes > > > > (e.g. made within an on_replace trigger) back. In the opposite case > > > > local changes will be incorporated into originating transaction and > > > > would be skipped by the originator replica. > > > > > > I wonder will we possibly have some recovery issues, since in fact > > > we're performing a reordering of execution here? > > > > > > Imagine local and remote statements change the same set of rows. > > > During initial execution these changes are intermixed, during > > > recovery they are serialized. > > > > If you remember we were agreed that only local spaces are allowed to > > change in case of replication triggers. > > > > > It seems we clearly have a problem here. We can either open a bug, > > > support multiple txn ids in the same stream, support multiple > > > server ids in the same transaction, ban triggers in > > > multi-statement transaction? > > > > You pushed me to remove txn_replica_id but it was one of the instruments I > > planed to use in order to support distributed transactions (with multiple > > replica ids in the same transaction) in the future. So I would prefer if > > we > > just disable changing of non-local spaces during replication. In such case > > we won't have any issues with reordering. > > > > > Can we attribute local changes to the same server id? > > > > It is impossible because of lsn > > > > > We don't have to replicate them back - this is a gray zone and we can do > > > it > > > in any way we want. > > > > I'm afraid no because we already have this functionality and it is even > > covered with tests. > > > > So we have to make a high level decision: what is expected behavior. > > In any case I will be agreed with your decision what we should to do: > > disable non-local replication changes, change behavior of replication for > > such changes or start further distributed transaction investigation. [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-11 19:52 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2019-03-10 20:21 [tarantool-patches] [PATCH v3 0/2] Transaction boundaries for applier Georgy Kirichenko 2019-03-10 20:21 ` [tarantool-patches] [PATCH] Don't free fiber gc on while txn_rollback Georgy Kirichenko 2019-03-11 8:12 ` [tarantool-patches] " Konstantin Osipov 2019-03-10 20:21 ` [tarantool-patches] [PATCH v3 1/2] Write rows without a lsn to the transaction tail Georgy Kirichenko 2019-03-11 8:14 ` [tarantool-patches] " Konstantin Osipov 2019-03-11 8:40 ` [tarantool-patches] " Vladimir Davydov 2019-03-11 9:59 ` [tarantool-patches] " Konstantin Osipov 2019-03-11 10:54 ` Georgy Kirichenko 2019-03-11 14:04 ` Konstantin Osipov 2019-03-11 19:52 ` Георгий Кириченко [this message] 2019-03-10 20:21 ` [tarantool-patches] [PATCH v3 2/2] Transaction support for applier Georgy Kirichenko 2019-03-11 8:18 ` [tarantool-patches] " Konstantin Osipov
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