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From: Igor Munkin <imun@tarantool.org>
To: Vladislav Shpilevoy <v.shpilevoy@tarantool.org>
Cc: tarantool-patches@dev.tarantool.org, alexander.turenko@tarantool.org
Subject: Re: [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 5/7] module api: luaT_temp_luastate & luaT_release_temp_luastate
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 18:10:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200929151002.GY18920@tarantool.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40b631b2-c660-32f7-c421-9770d5d06de4@tarantool.org>

Vlad,

I guess there should be a question to be asked in scope of the original
series: what performance enhancement can we obtain with such hacky
optimization? Do we have any benchmarks? If the performance impact is
negligible I believe these interfaces should be left internal.

On 29.09.20, Vladislav Shpilevoy wrote:
> Thanks for the patch!
> 
> I strongly don't like this export. It seems to be too internal.
> 
> But I have no better ideas than propose to implement your own
> lua_State cache in the merger module. It does not seem to be too
> hard, and I don't think it would occupy much memory.

Well, such exercise looks like fun but it's better to make it once and
provide user-friendly interfaces by so called "modulekit" to be used in
third party modules. Anyway, using this routine seems a bit complicated
than <lua_newstate> and <luaT_newstate> (also fully implemented via Lua
C standart API + already exported <luaT_call>). Ergo one ought to push
extern developers using the new one besides exporting it.

> 
> Just a simple list of lua_State objects, created by luaT_newthread
> on demand, and put back into the list when unused. What is wrong
> with that?

Again, how much will performance be nerfed if we simply create a new Lua
coroutine by demand?

> 
> Adding Igor as Lua master to help with this.
> 
> See 2 comments below.
> 
> > diff --git a/src/lua/utils.h b/src/lua/utils.h
> > index 9b1fe7e57..da0140076 100644
> > --- a/src/lua/utils.h
> > +++ b/src/lua/utils.h
> > @@ -554,6 +554,41 @@ luaL_iscallable(lua_State *L, int idx);
> >  struct lua_State *
> >  luaT_newthread(struct lua_State *L);
> >  

<snipped>

> 
> 2. I would encapsulate the out parameters into some kind of
> luaT_temp_state_ctx or something like that. Probably not even
> opaque, but extendible.

Totally agree here. Current interface is too fragile and tricky and IMHO
has to be redesigned/reworked prior to be exported for public usage.

> 
> Also maybe worth grouping these methods by using a common prefix:
> 
> 	luaT_temp_luastate_get
> 	luaT_temp_luastate_release
> 
> > + *
> > + * Return NULL and set a diag at failure.
> > + */
> > +struct lua_State *
> > +luaT_temp_luastate(int *coro_ref, int *top);
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * Release a temporary Lua state.
> > + *
> > + * It complements `luaT_temp_luastate()`.
> > + */
> > +void
> > +luaT_release_temp_luastate(struct lua_State *L, int coro_ref, int top);
> > +
> >  /** \endcond public */
> >  
> >  /**
> > 

Finally, I see no strict arguments *for* exporting these routines, and
have many doubts regarding its current design and *obligatoriness*. Yes,
they may be useful inside the platform but do they look like ones user
must have? I tend to "no" for now.

-- 
Best regards,
IM

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-29 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-24 17:00 [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 0/7] RFC: module api: extend for external merger Lua module Timur Safin
2020-09-24 17:00 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 1/7] module api: export box_tuple_validate Timur Safin
2020-09-28 22:20   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-02 12:24     ` Timur Safin
2020-10-09  1:11     ` Alexander Turenko
2020-10-09 20:11       ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-10  1:19         ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-29  5:25   ` Alexander Turenko
2020-10-05  7:35     ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-24 17:00 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 2/7] module api: export box_key_def_dup Timur Safin
2020-09-28 22:21   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-29  5:03     ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-29 23:19       ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-01  3:05         ` Alexander Turenko
2020-10-02 12:25           ` Timur Safin
2020-10-02 12:26     ` Timur Safin
2020-09-24 17:00 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 3/7] module api: luaT_newthread Timur Safin
2020-09-28 22:21   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-02 12:27     ` Timur Safin
2020-10-02 21:48       ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-29  6:25   ` Alexander Turenko
2020-10-02 12:26     ` Timur Safin
2020-10-02 12:53       ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-29 15:19   ` Igor Munkin
2020-10-02 16:12     ` Timur Safin
2020-10-03 16:57       ` Igor Munkin
2020-09-24 17:00 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 4/7] module api: luaL_register_module & luaL_register_type Timur Safin
2020-09-28 22:21   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-29  5:09     ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-29 23:20       ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-30  6:31         ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-30  6:33           ` Alexander Turenko
2020-10-02 16:14       ` Timur Safin
2020-09-29  8:03     ` Igor Munkin
2020-09-29 23:21       ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-02 16:14       ` Timur Safin
2020-10-03  3:24         ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-24 17:00 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 5/7] module api: luaT_temp_luastate & luaT_release_temp_luastate Timur Safin
2020-09-28 22:21   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-29  5:17     ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-29 23:21       ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-01  3:35         ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-29 15:10     ` Igor Munkin [this message]
2020-09-29 21:03       ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-29 23:23         ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-30 10:09           ` Alexander Turenko
2020-10-01 15:06             ` Igor Munkin
2020-10-03  2:16         ` Alexander Turenko
2020-10-02 12:24       ` Timur Safin
2020-09-24 17:00 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 6/7] module api: luaL_checkibuf & luaL_checkconstchar Timur Safin
2020-09-28 22:21   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-29  5:53     ` Alexander Turenko
2020-09-29 23:25       ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-01  3:00         ` Alexander Turenko
2020-10-02 16:14           ` Timur Safin
2020-10-02 21:48             ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-08 13:50           ` Timur Safin
2020-09-24 17:00 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 7/7] module api: luaL_cdata_iscallable Timur Safin
2020-09-28 22:21   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-29  5:19     ` Alexander Turenko
2020-10-02 16:14     ` Timur Safin
2020-10-02 12:23 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2.X 0/7] RFC: module api: extend for external merger Lua module Timur Safin
2020-10-02 21:49   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-03  2:54   ` Alexander Turenko

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