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From: Nikita Pettik <korablev@tarantool.org>
To: Konstantin Osipov <kostja.osipov@gmail.com>,
	Kirill Yukhin <kyukhin@tarantool.org>,
	Vladislav Shpilevoy <v.shpilevoy@tarantool.org>,
	Chris Sosnin <k.sosnin@tarantool.org>,
	tarantool-patches@dev.tarantool.org
Subject: Re: [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH] box: remove unicode_ci for functions
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 17:07:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191209140713.GA57435@tarantool.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191209133955.GA8196@atlas>

On 09 Dec 16:39, Konstantin Osipov wrote:
> * Kirill Yukhin <kyukhin@tarantool.org> [19/12/09 16:28]:
> > > Who is "we"?
> > 
> > We are team of Tarantool developers working for MailRU Group.
> 
> Actually this decision was made without any discussions - it was
> quickly hacked in back in 2018. Maybe you and Nikita had some
> discussion prompted by Peter's firm stance that we should
> uppercase, but that was it.

I didn't participate in any discussion at that time.
When I came in Tarantool decision had been already taken.
I do not know who is responsible for that.

IMHO rather than attempt to fix it now, I'd better improve tutorials
and docs by placing most common examples/mistakes at the front page.

> I protested several times while I
> was still on board but had not anticipated how bad the solution
> would turn out to be when it is implemented to follow through on
> time. Now it is still not to late - bit it's getting more late
> every day.
> 
> What we learned since then is that every single newbie trips over
> it.
> 
> 
> > We had pretty much discussions internally on the matter and
> > came up with this decision: we won't break backward compatibility
> > in order to add some sugar.
> 
> What backward compatibility do you think will be broken?
> 
> 
> > 
> > > I don't see this has been discussed & rejected, so why are you
> > > thinking you can make this decision?
> > 
> > All I can see on the matter is issue #4467 which we agreed to
> > be broken by design. I see no solid proposals neither in discussions
> > nor in github issues on how it supposed to work. If it will occur -
> > we'll happily consider it.
> > 
> > > Maybe "we" instead of making "decisions" goes to users and
> > > customers and asks them what they expect?
> > 
> > Why not to ask if public demands free beer? Right now business
> > dictates us to work on other things.
> 
> Like Chris patch?
> 
> -- 
> Konstantin Osipov, Moscow, Russia

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-09 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-29 23:39 Chris Sosnin
2019-11-30 20:34 ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-12-01 14:12   ` k.sosnin
2019-12-01 14:36   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2019-12-02  7:07     ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-12-02 14:36       ` Nikita Pettik
2019-12-02 14:49         ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-12-06 11:42       ` Kirill Yukhin
2019-12-06 20:17         ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-12-09 11:06           ` Kirill Yukhin
2019-12-09 11:24             ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-12-09 13:25               ` Kirill Yukhin
2019-12-09 13:39                 ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-12-09 14:07                   ` Nikita Pettik [this message]
2019-12-09 23:09                   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2019-12-10  8:19                     ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-12-10 12:44                       ` Kirill Yukhin

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