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From: Konstantin Osipov <kostja@tarantool.org>
To: Vladislav Shpilevoy <v.shpilevoy@tarantool.org>
Cc: tarantool-patches@freelists.org
Subject: [tarantool-patches] Re: [PATCH 1/2] swim: pool IO tasks
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:54:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190708215432.GB7873@atlas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35c77ced-50ea-faed-7d41-571020fbbfbb@tarantool.org>

* Vladislav Shpilevoy <v.shpilevoy@tarantool.org> [19/07/08 22:14]:
> > What happens if I create multiple instances of swim library in
> > multiple threads? These instances will try to concurrently access
> > these members without mutexes.
> 
> How is it possible? SWIM works in TX only. You just can't
> create it another thread. It is literally impossible.

My point is, the library should either explicitly prohibit it by
panicking in swim_new/swim_cfg, or should be resilient to it.
Please choose. I'd rather make it not depend on tx or any other
thread in particular, it's easier to test.

> Even if someday it will work in another thread, still all
> the SWIMs will work in one thread. So in future we won't
> allow to scatter SWIMs among multiple threads as well.
> 
> With the same reasoning we would need to make thread-local
> all global on_replace triggers like on_replace_vinyl_deferred_delete
> just in case if in future Vinyl will do DML/DQL in multiple
> threads. But why should we do that now? I do not understand.
> 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Why not use mempool?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Because 1) it is an overkill, 2) I don't want to depend on
> >> slab allocator, 3) it just does not fit this case, according
> >> to mempool description from mempool.h:
> >>
> >>     "Good for allocating tons of small objects of the same size.".
> > 
> > It is also quite decent for allocating many fairly large objects.
> > The key point is that the object is of the same size. You can set
> > up mempool the right slab size, and in this case it will do
> > exactly what you want.
> > 
> 
> And again - 'many' usually won't be the case. We will have 0-2 SWIMs
> in 99% of cases. One internal SWIM for box, and one external created
> by a user. Barely we will have more than 10 cached tasks.
> 
> But ok, as you wish. This place is not as critical for me as thread
> locality of the pool. At least we reuse existing code. Thread locality
> still looks pointless waste of memory for me.

OK, wait a second. I thought you're going to have a single task
instance for each member. Which means a couple of dozen instances
even in a two node cluster. Am I wrong? 

-- 
Konstantin Osipov, Moscow, Russia

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-08 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-05 22:40 [tarantool-patches] [PATCH 0/2] SWIM micro optimizations Vladislav Shpilevoy
2019-07-05 22:40 ` [tarantool-patches] [PATCH 1/2] swim: pool IO tasks Vladislav Shpilevoy
2019-07-05 23:01   ` [tarantool-patches] " Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-06 21:00     ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2019-07-08  8:25       ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-08 18:31         ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2019-07-08 21:54           ` Konstantin Osipov [this message]
2019-07-08 22:13             ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2019-07-08 23:08               ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-09 19:43                 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2019-07-09 22:24                   ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-05 22:40 ` [tarantool-patches] [PATCH 2/2] swim: optimize struct swim_task layout Vladislav Shpilevoy
2019-07-05 23:02   ` [tarantool-patches] " Konstantin Osipov

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