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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
To: Konstantin Osipov <kostja@tarantool.org>
Cc: tarantool-patches@freelists.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] Don't take schema lock for checkpointing
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 23:05:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190703200537.d5fieiy6vq6otepu@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190703192153.GF17318@atlas>

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 10:21:53PM +0300, Konstantin Osipov wrote:
> * Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com> [19/07/01 10:04]:
> > Memtx checkpointing proceeds as follows: first we open iterators over
> > primary indexes of all spaces and save them to a list, then we start
> > a thread that uses the iterators to dump space contents to a snap file.
> > To avoid accessing a freed tuple, we put the small allocator to the
> > delayed free mode. However, this doesn't prevent an index from being
> > dropped so we also take the schema lock to lock out any DDL operation
> > that can potentially destroy a space or an index. Note, vinyl doesn't
> > need this lock, because it implements index reference counting under
> > the hood.
> > 
> > Actually, we don't really need to take a lock - instead we can simply
> > postpone index destruction until checkpointing is complete, similarly
> > to how we postpone destruction of individual tuples. We even have all
> > the infrastructure for this - it's delayed garbage collection. So this
> > patch tweaks it a bit to delay the actual index destruction to be done
> > after checkpointing is complete.
> > 
> > This is a step forward towards removal of the schema lock, which stands
> > in the way of transactional DDL.
> 
> Looks like you do it because I said once I hate reference
> counting.
> 
> First, I don't mind having reference counting for memtx index objects now
> that we've approached transactional ddl frontier.
> 
> But even reference counting would be a bit cumbersome for this.
> Please take a look at how bps does it - it links all pages into a
> fifo-like list, and a checkpoint simply sets a savepoint on that
> list. Committing a checkpoint releases the savepoint and garbage
> collects all objects that have been freed after the savepoint. 
> 
> SQL will need multiple concurrent snapshots - so it will need
> multiple versions. So please consider turning the algorithm you've
> just used a general-purpose one - so that any database object
> could add itself for delayed destruction, the delayed destruction
> would take place immediately if there are no savepoints, or
> immediately after the savepoint up until the next savepoint.
> 
> Then we can move all subsystems to this.
> 
> If you have a better general-purpose object garbage collection
> idea, please share/implement it too.

I thought we'd agreed that we aren't going to implement schema multi
versioning in foreseeable future so this patch does a quick fix for
memtx snapshotting to get rid of the schema lock which conflicts with
the notion of transactional DDL.

If you think that reference counting is a better design - fine, I'm okay
with it - we can pull the patch by Georgy that did exactly that. Just
that I think that introducing base index reference counting solely to
fix a problem in memtx seems to be a bit of an overkill for me.

Regarding SQL. I don't think I follow what you're talking about.
Let's discuss it f2f.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-03 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-30 19:40 [PATCH 0/6] Get rid of the schema lock Vladimir Davydov
2019-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH 1/6] Add ERROR_INJECT_YIELD and ERROR_INJECT_SLEEP helpers Vladimir Davydov
2019-07-03 19:12   ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-04 15:50     ` Vladimir Davydov
2019-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH 2/6] Replace ERRINJ_SNAP_WRITE_ROW_TIMEOUT with ERRINJ_SNAP_WRITE_DELAY Vladimir Davydov
2019-07-03 19:13   ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-04 15:51     ` Vladimir Davydov
2019-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH 3/6] Don't take schema lock for checkpointing Vladimir Davydov
2019-07-03 19:21   ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-03 20:05     ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2019-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH 4/6] test: make vinyl/replica_rejoin more stable Vladimir Davydov
2019-07-03 19:23   ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-04 15:51     ` Vladimir Davydov
2019-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH 5/6] vinyl: don't yield while logging index creation Vladimir Davydov
2019-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH 6/6] Replace schema lock with fine-grained locking Vladimir Davydov
2019-07-03 19:35   ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-03 19:56     ` Vladimir Davydov
2019-07-04  8:09       ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-04 17:06         ` Vladimir Davydov
2019-07-08  7:40           ` Konstantin Osipov
2019-07-08  8:41             ` Vladimir Davydov
2019-07-05  8:53 ` [PATCH 0/6] Get rid of the schema lock Vladimir Davydov

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