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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
To: Konstantin Osipov <kostja@tarantool.org>
Cc: tarantool-patches@freelists.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/18] vinyl: set quota timer period to 100 ms
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:18:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180824081840.t3bd7yoikmw4w4vb@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180823204936.GE24711@chai>

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:49:36PM +0300, Konstantin Osipov wrote:
> * Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com> [18/08/16 23:03]:
> > Currently, it's 1 second, which is OK for calculating watermark, but
> > too long for throttling (think of latency of 1 seconds that would be
> > introduced by throttling if such timeout were used).
> 
> 1) I think the timer period should self-adjust based on the amount
>    of available quota.

Do we really need to bother? An execution of a timer callback is pretty
cheap - it's merely a few arithmetic calculations. I set it to 100 ms to
make sure the latency won't be too high when throttling is enabled.

> 
> 2) We narrowed down the problem to throttling only.
>    We never do anticipatory dump/compaction today.  Let's design a
>    system which swings the pendulum both ways - not only throttles
>    the client when the load is high but performs an anticipatory
>    dump/compaction when the load is low. See for example
>    https://github.com/tarantool/tarantool/issues/3225

It totally makes sense, of course, but it's a completely different
issue, which can be done separately on top of this patch set.

> 
>    In other words, I think we should not only enable "stalls" in
>    the timer callback when the write stream is strong, but
>    trigger compaction when the write stream is thin. Unfortunately
>    we do not collect read statistics per lsm as a secondary
>    indicator of compaction priority, so we may only trigger
>    compaction based simply on the number of levels, but never the
>    less.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-24  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-16 16:11 [PATCH 00/18] Implement write throttling for vinyl Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:11 ` [PATCH 01/18] vinyl: rework internal quota API Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:07   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-24  8:32     ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-27 18:29   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:11 ` [PATCH 02/18] vinyl: move quota methods implementation to vy_quota.c Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:07   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-27 18:30   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:11 ` [PATCH 03/18] vinyl: move quota related methods and variables from vy_env to vy_quota Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:08   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-27 18:33   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:11 ` [PATCH 04/18] vinyl: implement vy_quota_wait using vy_quota_try_use Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:09   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-27 18:36   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:11 ` [PATCH 05/18] vinyl: wake up fibers waiting for quota one by one Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:11   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-24  8:33     ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-28 13:19   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-28 14:04     ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-28 14:39       ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 06/18] vinyl: do not wake up fibers waiting for quota if quota is unavailable Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:13   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 07/18] vinyl: tune dump bandwidth histogram buckets Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:15   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-28 15:37   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 08/18] vinyl: rename vy_quota::dump_bw to dump_bw_hist Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:15   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-28 16:04   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 09/18] vinyl: cache dump bandwidth for timer invocation Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:21   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-28 16:10   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 10/18] vinyl: do not add initial guess to dump bandwidth histogram Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:23   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-23 20:15   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-28 16:15   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 11/18] vinyl: use snap_io_rate_limit for initial dump bandwidth estimate Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:24   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-24  8:31     ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-28 16:18   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 12/18] histogram: add function for computing lower bound percentile estimate Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-20 11:29   ` [tarantool-patches] " Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-24  8:30     ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-28 16:39   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 13/18] vinyl: use lower bound percentile estimate for dump bandwidth Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-28 16:51   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 14/18] vinyl: do not try to trigger dump if it is already in progress Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 15/18] vinyl: improve dump start/stop logging Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-23 20:18   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 16/18] vinyl: confine quota watermark within sane value range Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 17/18] vinyl: set quota timer period to 100 ms Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-23 20:49   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-24  8:18     ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2018-08-16 16:12 ` [PATCH 18/18] vinyl: throttle tx rate if dump does not catch up Vladimir Davydov
2018-08-23 20:54   ` Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-23 20:58     ` [tarantool-patches] " Konstantin Osipov
2018-08-24  8:21     ` Vladimir Davydov

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