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From: Peter Gulutzan <pgulutzan@ocelot.ca>
To: Mergen Imeev <imeevma@tarantool.org>,
	Vladislav Shpilevoy <v.shpilevoy@tarantool.org>,
	Nikita Pettik <korablev@tarantool.org>,
	kyukhin@tarantool.org, tsafin@tarantool.org,
	sergos@tarantool.org
Cc: tarantool-discussions@dev.tarantool.org
Subject: Re: [Tarantool-discussions] SQL built-in functions position
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 14:56:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9a788a90-f558-fc6c-1d28-2813e8b721f8@ocelot.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <66362762-8791-bea3-745f-afc1e3eaa199@tarantool.org>


Hi,

On 2020-09-27 9:18 a.m., Mergen Imeev wrote:
 > Hi all. I have a question that I would like to discuss.
 >
 > The question is about SQL built-in functions. At the moment these 
functions are
 > partially described in _func and partially in src/box/sql/func.c. I 
received two
 > completely different suggestions from my reviewers on what to do with 
these
 > functions:
 > 1) Move definitions completely to _func. Remove definitions from func.c.
 > 2) Move definitions completely to func.c. Remove definitions from _func.
 >
 > In the first case, users will be able to see the function 
definitions. Also, in
 > the future, we may allow these functions to be called from Lua 
(although not
 > sure if this is necessary). The main idea is 'all functions have the same
 > interface'.
 >
 > In the second case, the implementation is simpler, and we can more easily
 > implement some features, such as "virtual" functions. For users, the 
definition
 > can only be seen in the documentation. The main idea is 'SQL built-in 
functions
 > are part of SQL'.
 >
 > Which of these approaches do you think is more beneficial to us?
 >

I hope you will say _func.

The current built-in functions are harmless, except perhaps for 
RANDOMBLOB with a huge value.
However, in future maybe there will be built-in functions that should 
require privileges.
In that case, I believe, they will have to be in _func (and someday in 
_vfunc)
so that grant() will work for them.

I have tried to redirect the UPPER() function in order to violate 
security, thus:
"
tarantool> function UPPER(x) return x end
---
...
tarantool> box.schema.func.create('UPPER')
---
- error: Function 'UPPER' already exists
...
tarantool> box.schema.func.drop('UPPER')
---
- error: 'Can''t drop function 1: function is SQL built-in'
...
"
This is good behaviour and I think it works because UPPER() is in _func.

I did not document in the manual's SQL section that built-in functions will
be in _func, so removing them is not a regression from documented behaviour.
Also I acknowledge that they don't exist in MySQL/MariaDB
information_schema.routines.
But I think users benefit from being able to see them.


Peter Gulutzan

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-27 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-27 15:18 Mergen Imeev
2020-09-27 20:56 ` Peter Gulutzan [this message]
2020-09-28 20:07   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-29 19:22     ` Peter Gulutzan
2020-09-28 18:19 ` Nikita Pettik
2020-09-28 20:07   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-09-28 20:07 ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-01 14:46   ` Kirill Yukhin
2020-10-01 21:15     ` Vladislav Shpilevoy
2020-10-02 15:18       ` Mergen Imeev

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