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From: Cyrill Gorcunov via Tarantool-patches <tarantool-patches@dev.tarantool.org>
To: Vladislav Shpilevoy <v.shpilevoy@tarantool.org>
Cc: tml <tarantool-patches@dev.tarantool.org>
Subject: Re: [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v23 3/3] test: add gh-6036-qsync-order test
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 19:01:47 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXWDa8Z+oCy9IIQ6@grain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31fa78f8-c01b-27be-83a8-8eb9119a837a@tarantool.org>

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 05:39:34PM +0200, Vladislav Shpilevoy wrote:
> >> I added this diff and all the tests passed. That means the only
> >> tested parts of the patchset are apply_synchro_row() and
> >> txn_limbo_is_replica_outdated().
> >>
> > 
> > Without the rest of locking the overall picture becomes incomplete,
> > we introduce the first part of split brain detection. And in second
> > part we'are about to introduce filtering into begin()/commit() pair.
> Sorry, but how is my comment above related to filtering? You introduced
> some code which is dead - it is not tested at all. That was my only
> point here.

Vlad, these locking calls are not dead, they are not covered by tests
because they will be so in next part, where we introduce the filtering.
But these lockings are taken and running. At least that is what I've had
in mind.

But I see your point, thanks!

> It is not related to filtering - the ordering issue is separate as
> you yourself noted when this was all a single patchset with the
> split-brain detection. This is even proved by the test you added
> here. I just need more tests for the other places which use the locking
> now.
> >> Please, lets try not to submit more untested code. It is enough that
> >> we already have one ticket which simply adds assert(false) into a few
> >> places and the tests pass. It does not make the code better, it just
> >> adds more uncertainty how it works and whether it works at all.
> > 
> > This is the correct way to guard access to some particular data to me.
> > In this case we're guarding @promote_term_map and @promote_greatest_term.
> > What you propose is to guard them in "some path" but leave untouched for
> > all others. So the person which would read this code after some years
> > gonna be scratching a head trying to figure out why sometimes access to
> > these members is done locked and somtimes are not. I completely disagree
> > here. Either we lock all accesses either not, not partial lockings please.
> Well, the only thing which I am worrying right now about is that if this
> person in a few years will drop almost the entirety of your patchset
> wondering whether it is needed really, all the tests will pass.

OK, I got your worrying. Lets see if we manage to settle it down.

> Also you seem to misunderstand my proposal. I didn't propose to make less
> locking, I only proposed to increase it. I thought it will be easier to do
> with full blocking of certain functions because it might be just easier to
> get something locked in the tests. The bigger the critical section is - the
> easier to hit it. Or maybe fine-grained locking works better if you say so.
> Don't know.
> It will only affect performance. Perf of qsync/raft now is 0, because
> it is not used at all, due to being unsafe. Because of the reordering and
> of the split-brain. This patch can't say it makes the reordering stuff much
> better, because there are no tests except for a single case of reordering.
> If from my diff you understood that I proposed to this drop code - sorry,
> I didn't mean this. I meant that your patch should test these places, not
> drop them. By commenting this code out I tried to prove that this code is
> dead now, and that it shouldn't be so.

OK, I see. Gimme some time, I'll try various ways. Thanks for comments, Vlad!


      reply	other threads:[~2021-10-24 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-14 21:56 [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v23 0/3] qsync: implement packet filtering (part 1) Cyrill Gorcunov via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-14 21:56 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v23 1/3] latch: add latch_is_locked helper Cyrill Gorcunov via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-14 21:56 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v23 2/3] qsync: order access to the limbo terms Cyrill Gorcunov via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-21 22:06   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-14 21:56 ` [Tarantool-patches] [PATCH v23 3/3] test: add gh-6036-qsync-order test Cyrill Gorcunov via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-19 15:09   ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-19 22:26     ` Cyrill Gorcunov via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-20  6:35       ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-21 22:06         ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-22  6:36           ` Serge Petrenko via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-21 22:06   ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-22 22:03     ` Cyrill Gorcunov via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-24 15:39       ` Vladislav Shpilevoy via Tarantool-patches
2021-10-24 16:01         ` Cyrill Gorcunov via Tarantool-patches [this message]

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